The God-head issue, Trinities, Quadrinities, Pantheons, Co-creators, etc...
My experience and study over the soon to be four decades of life, has allowed me to witness various ideas and understandings of the god/goddess relationship and interaction with humankind.
I grew up in a mainline protestant christian church. We were Baptists. There was this guy named Jesus risen from the dead. The same guy my Grandpa prayed to; he also called out to with cusses each time he smashed his thumb with a hammer. Somehow this Christ guy we are thankful to for the Turkey, Potatoes, and pumpkin pie at Holiday Dinners is the same one we blame for smashing our thumbs with hammers. Also, this living Jesus has a Father whom I am to address as Holy Father. I am to understand that the Roman Catholics have a Holy Father too, but we are not to associate with them, because Our Father in Heaven has another family that prays to the mother of this guy Jesus. Somehow that is evil and against this guy Jesus. Oh and those Catholics do not use enough water when baptizing. Not to mention that they baptize babies. I'd use less water too.
Sorry, rambling.
Anyway, I found out that there is also the Holy Ghost, "BOO, with Blessings!" Some say Holy Spirit. I guess Spirit is preferred nowadays because Ghost references the dead and Spirit is alive. So there is this guy Jesus, an all around good guy and teacher who just wanted everyone to get along, so they killed him. Then there is his Father in heaven, (which I understand the older one is wearing the young one's shirt so he can get some teenaged girl pregnant, or something), and the almost always forgotten about Holy Spirit. Someway all three of these people are the same dude. [Can we say "multiple personality disorder", hey it could apply to god just as much as jealousy does.]
Yet, I am still confused. What became of this guy Jesus mother that if I pray to her I am a blasphemer and evil? Oh doesn't he also have some evil twin brother with a much more awesome name, Luci...Luke...something like that. (A later topic.)
Then comes the witches. So these chicks, when I was a randy teenaged boy, would hang around had shown me somethings more than what lies beneath their netherworlds. No, I am just teasing you. They were exploring the realms of Magick. Magic cool, I am a big fan of David Copperfield. With-in a few weeks I was also a big fan of Scott Cunningham too. Along with my friend, Seth, the group of us formed a circle. We learned together about the Maid, the Mother and the Crone and like that guy Jesus, his Father, and that Ghost, these ladies are all the same chick! Hah, who, knew.
~~Wait!, is this the Mother of that guy Jesus?? The ones the Catholics prayed too? "No one expects the Spanish Inquisition!" What the heck! does anyone like this guy Jesus and his mother? They slabbed both of them to stakes and put them to death in the name God Almighty! Wait Jesus' Father was abusive! Jesus was beaten and hung out like an old shirt to dry, and his mother and most who honored her were burnt at the stake.
Gnosticism, what is this? Oh now there are two gods, hold on more than two. Let me read some more. Oh the god the killed this guy Jesus and His mother, is not Jesus' Father. Oh he is a jealous despicable being. Blinded by his own arrogance, envy, and pride. Jesus from his Father of pure Light, Along with Our Mother of our souls, his hated by the god of this world. This why he killed them, while at least tried.
The Mother-Father of All, those from before, from the One. Those whom we all come, those to whom we all shall return. Whether we call them Lord and Lady, Theos and Thea, Father and Mother or Cristos and Sophia,
These are the ones whom have guided us to come here. to join us together to create in their Name this Third Millennium Church. We are Theans.
When it comes to the doctrine of the God-head, whether we come from Father-Son-Holy Spirit, or Maid-Mother-Crone or Frog-Goat-Mushroom, it really does not matter.(Matter, BAD!). We are coming to be Theans, of Mother-Father along with Son-Daughter but mostly we are honoring the One from whom all blessings come.
Scripturally I was going to suggest the concept of the Elohim. +Bishop Katia has a wonderful slide presentation about the wife f God, on the northernway website. (see links page.) In it it describes the Elohim in Genesis as a male-female dual god planing to make mankind in both male and female in their image. The word translated into English for Elohim is god. Elohim in Hebrew is a word that has dual properties alike our word everyone. It is singular in usage and understanding yet it implies a group or multiple persons in concert. Therefore the Elohim is god, but more like gods together. most likely a god and goddess a mother father god, co-creators. Some have suggested that there are 7 in the Elohim, and Christians say it is the triune god F-S-HG. Regardless the number of the persons in the Elohim, As a point of doctrine in the Thean Church, we could say we accept the Elohim, creators of heaven and earth and all things seen and unseen. Thus we cover the trinty/quadrinity, or just the duality of Mother-Father, the Elohim.
-Curate Joseph.
My experience and study over the soon to be four decades of life, has allowed me to witness various ideas and understandings of the god/goddess relationship and interaction with humankind.
I grew up in a mainline protestant christian church. We were Baptists. There was this guy named Jesus risen from the dead. The same guy my Grandpa prayed to; he also called out to with cusses each time he smashed his thumb with a hammer. Somehow this Christ guy we are thankful to for the Turkey, Potatoes, and pumpkin pie at Holiday Dinners is the same one we blame for smashing our thumbs with hammers. Also, this living Jesus has a Father whom I am to address as Holy Father. I am to understand that the Roman Catholics have a Holy Father too, but we are not to associate with them, because Our Father in Heaven has another family that prays to the mother of this guy Jesus. Somehow that is evil and against this guy Jesus. Oh and those Catholics do not use enough water when baptizing. Not to mention that they baptize babies. I'd use less water too.
Sorry, rambling.
Anyway, I found out that there is also the Holy Ghost, "BOO, with Blessings!" Some say Holy Spirit. I guess Spirit is preferred nowadays because Ghost references the dead and Spirit is alive. So there is this guy Jesus, an all around good guy and teacher who just wanted everyone to get along, so they killed him. Then there is his Father in heaven, (which I understand the older one is wearing the young one's shirt so he can get some teenaged girl pregnant, or something), and the almost always forgotten about Holy Spirit. Someway all three of these people are the same dude. [Can we say "multiple personality disorder", hey it could apply to god just as much as jealousy does.]
Yet, I am still confused. What became of this guy Jesus mother that if I pray to her I am a blasphemer and evil? Oh doesn't he also have some evil twin brother with a much more awesome name, Luci...Luke...something like that. (A later topic.)
Then comes the witches. So these chicks, when I was a randy teenaged boy, would hang around had shown me somethings more than what lies beneath their netherworlds. No, I am just teasing you. They were exploring the realms of Magick. Magic cool, I am a big fan of David Copperfield. With-in a few weeks I was also a big fan of Scott Cunningham too. Along with my friend, Seth, the group of us formed a circle. We learned together about the Maid, the Mother and the Crone and like that guy Jesus, his Father, and that Ghost, these ladies are all the same chick! Hah, who, knew.
~~Wait!, is this the Mother of that guy Jesus?? The ones the Catholics prayed too? "No one expects the Spanish Inquisition!" What the heck! does anyone like this guy Jesus and his mother? They slabbed both of them to stakes and put them to death in the name God Almighty! Wait Jesus' Father was abusive! Jesus was beaten and hung out like an old shirt to dry, and his mother and most who honored her were burnt at the stake.
Gnosticism, what is this? Oh now there are two gods, hold on more than two. Let me read some more. Oh the god the killed this guy Jesus and His mother, is not Jesus' Father. Oh he is a jealous despicable being. Blinded by his own arrogance, envy, and pride. Jesus from his Father of pure Light, Along with Our Mother of our souls, his hated by the god of this world. This why he killed them, while at least tried.
The Mother-Father of All, those from before, from the One. Those whom we all come, those to whom we all shall return. Whether we call them Lord and Lady, Theos and Thea, Father and Mother or Cristos and Sophia,
These are the ones whom have guided us to come here. to join us together to create in their Name this Third Millennium Church. We are Theans.
When it comes to the doctrine of the God-head, whether we come from Father-Son-Holy Spirit, or Maid-Mother-Crone or Frog-Goat-Mushroom, it really does not matter.(Matter, BAD!). We are coming to be Theans, of Mother-Father along with Son-Daughter but mostly we are honoring the One from whom all blessings come.
Scripturally I was going to suggest the concept of the Elohim. +Bishop Katia has a wonderful slide presentation about the wife f God, on the northernway website. (see links page.) In it it describes the Elohim in Genesis as a male-female dual god planing to make mankind in both male and female in their image. The word translated into English for Elohim is god. Elohim in Hebrew is a word that has dual properties alike our word everyone. It is singular in usage and understanding yet it implies a group or multiple persons in concert. Therefore the Elohim is god, but more like gods together. most likely a god and goddess a mother father god, co-creators. Some have suggested that there are 7 in the Elohim, and Christians say it is the triune god F-S-HG. Regardless the number of the persons in the Elohim, As a point of doctrine in the Thean Church, we could say we accept the Elohim, creators of heaven and earth and all things seen and unseen. Thus we cover the trinty/quadrinity, or just the duality of Mother-Father, the Elohim.
-Curate Joseph.
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